I am a fan of the Rock'n'Roll Red lubricant, but over the winter time it is not enough. The sand soil in Woodhill forest Auckland just ea out dry lub right away, while using wet lub is even worse, becasue it is creat grinding paste and destroy your chain and cassette in a few week time. This Green lub has been absolutely awesome, it's very similar to the golden lub but in my opinion last a bit longer and attract less dirt on E-bike. I can recommend it to any MTB rider for the winter time, for the summer I would still use red as it cheaper.